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Post by bakedcookie on Jan 11, 2013 18:16:49 GMT 1
I like the idea of brave new world, as you see the album zone of alienation the two figures in suits come from another planet to see how their ancestors lived. It would be nice that the new album cover art will display the planet where the fled humans currently live.
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lupo
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Post by lupo on Jan 11, 2013 22:35:56 GMT 1
Maybe the "last remains of mankind after great catastrophe" could be changed/expanded to an "alien apocalypse-something". So, instead of a desert-wasteland on earth where the last survivors fight each other, mutants and such they live in a "cosmic-wasteland", spread through all the stars the last marauders wait for being reunited, and to take over their domains one more time...hunted by aliens or the arch-enemy of all living, the destroyer, son of death and eternity. well I know, some of this is already on "zone of alienation" but...you know, just one step further...with aliens  Maybe even a cosmic-war theme (classic wing commander anyone? Or "space - above and beyond"? That would be so cool) cheers edit: coversongs are a nice thing, but not a must-have for me...maybe as a bonus-track for some nice limited edition, but the regular tracks should all be shiny-new-steelwing-songs!!! |
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Post by lunacyrising on Jan 12, 2013 13:40:22 GMT 1
You just have to write what you guys feel at the moment, if it's different or not... I have faith in you guys! Because when you buy a steelwing album you know one thing: It's heavy metal! As for the post-apocalyptic thing, I realy like that theme and it would be interesting to see it continue in the third album!
Greetz,
Jochen , A wandering Marauder from space!
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Post by powermetaller on Jan 12, 2013 18:11:06 GMT 1
edit: coversongs are a nice thing, but not a must-have for me...maybe as a bonus-track for some nice limited edition, but the regular tracks should all be shiny-new-steelwing-songs!!! I thought that'd be clear... But never mind, back to topic: As much as I appreciate the decision of Steelwing to include the fans into the work on the new album, I'm pretty skeptical as well. Taking vague issues suggested by fans and writing own interpretations of it can work - it can even work really well. But I'm a bit afraid of giving too strict and concrete concepts could lead to some kind of "fanservice" (I know, the term is actually used in a different context, but I hope you get that). By fitting the ideas of the fans in order not to anger them could cause a lack of creativity. I mean, look at Sabaton: They are writing songs about historical battles, often with one specific topic to please a certain audience. Though I guess 90% of their listeners will never get tired of hearing brave Polish partisans fighting the evil Wehrmacht, imho Sabaton are one of the most boring bands on that planet. A lot of lyrics and standard mid-tempo or sometimes up-tempo European power metal melodies and tunes seem really forced to me, as if the writers weren't into songwriting wholheartedly. I may be wrong and you can prove me wrong, but I think that could be because of always trying to give their fans excactly what they want. Same with Runnig Wild, there a billions of pirate songs sounding all alike - but they had the pirate image, and the majority of the fans just wanted more pirates... So maybe you'll kill me now (not that you get me wrong, I really like your ideas and can imagine Steelwing writing kick-ass songs about them as well, but if the band just does that to please the Marauders, #3 would be a desaster. This all makes only sense, if the band is completely confident with a certain concept, which can imho only happen, if the band has enough space for own ideas...), maybe not, but I'd really love hear your opinion about that. (Only in case someone understood my weird thoughts . |
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Post by lupo on Jan 13, 2013 12:10:00 GMT 1
I understood your thoughts, but as well I understood the "request" by the band different. I don't think they wanted to get the "average Marauder", so they would know what "we" want to hear, but just saw the chance of getting some inspiration. I mean, the way Riley asks, if we still like Mad Max and such didn't sound that serious about actually changing that. I actually understand your worries as I know what you're talking about from bands I like (or liked). I just don't see that "danger" in this topic. I remember, some years ago, I talked to a friend of mine who actually has a band. We talked about some scifi and comic-stuff and at one point I said: "you should make a song about that certain comic". She had never thought of it before, though it was one of her favorite comics. It was just a new "input" and worked out as a great song. That would be the way I see this topic. Riley didn't wrote "We will write an album about what you request here" but "maybe one of the ideas will inspire us..." I hope you can follow my weird thoughts ...and no offense as well |
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Post by Scavenger 2 on Jan 14, 2013 12:30:30 GMT 1
You have a point powermetaller. On the other hand, I believe Steelwing have their own minds and wouldn't come up with an unfitting setting, only because we ask for it.
The "always-doing-the-same-setting" might also be a thing to think about. It might be a good idea to have songs on a wide spread bunch of settings, so people don't nail you to one certain one. If SW for example make the 3 following albums all on post-apocalytic space or mad max theme, it might also get a problem. If they then get tired of it and make a pirate or medieval album, fan say "WTF?". Maybe better to keep some doors open!?
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Post by Riley on Jan 14, 2013 19:17:16 GMT 1
Just to clarify: we already have a pretty good idea of the direction we're going in with the next album, both musically and lyrically, so it's not like we're going to create an album based on forum posts. We do however want to be in touch with what our fans expect so that we're not just sticking our heads up our own asses.
I think some of the worst albums in history could have been avoided if the bands responsible for them took a minute to reflect on why people listen to them in the first place.
Thanks for all your comments so far and keep 'em coming!
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Post by hellraiser on Jan 14, 2013 19:54:08 GMT 1
it's not like we're going to create an album based on forum posts. We do however want to be in touch with what our fans expect so that we're not just sticking our heads up our own asses Perfect  It's really cool that you guys try to keep in touch with your fans and that you're open towards new opinions and ideas but you always have to keep the balance between the things you want to do and the sort of things people expect you to do - and I'm sure you can perfectly manage that. You're talented, energetic and when you guys are on stage and play your music I get the feeling that you really enjoy what you're doing - and that's the most important thing! So keep doing the stuff you LIKE to do because that still creates the best sound ever! Looking so much forward to the new album and I know it'll kick-ass as hell! Cheers! |
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Post by powermetaller on Jan 14, 2013 20:11:47 GMT 1
Couldn't agree more with hellraiser. That and what Riley said (and actually all the others ) is what I actually meant ;D. My articulation is bad and I should feel bad... |
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Post by hellraiser on Jan 14, 2013 20:38:40 GMT 1
I doubt that anyone felt offended by constructive criticism  That's the idea of the whole thing. Edit: It wasn't even real criticism |
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Post by Scavenger 2 on Jan 28, 2013 11:41:52 GMT 1
Playing around with the Scavenger Spacehunt game, I felt I really want to know some more adventures of S-1 and it's crew! Maybe not the whole album, but some news about them would be awesome!
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david
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Post by david on Feb 17, 2013 14:43:55 GMT 1
Hey Steelwing Members !
I would like if you do it like you did it before , because the 2 albums were great but you have to to a very nice ballad !First , because I like ballads , second because you have to show the people that hard new bands also can write ballads .Enforcer did no ballad , Skull fist did no ballad but you have to do it!
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Post by Scavenger 2 on Feb 21, 2013 13:03:01 GMT 1
Do you plan a release in 2013 or rather 2014?
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Post by Riley on Mar 6, 2013 19:58:33 GMT 1
Our plan is to make an album superior to LotW and ZoA. Given that it usually takes at least 5-6 months from session start to album release and we have about 20% of the material done, time is probably running out for a 2013 release... but never say never, right?
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Post by Scavenger 2 on Mar 7, 2013 11:28:50 GMT 1
Of course everyone would be happy about a soon release, but if you make an album superior to LotW and ZoA I'm sure it's worth the wait.
And you've grabbed a guitar, Riley? Or is it just for songwriting?
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It's really cool that you guys try to keep in touch with your fans and that you're open towards new opinions and ideas but you always have to keep the balance between the things you want to do and the sort of things people expect you to do - and I'm sure you can perfectly manage that. 
That's the idea of the whole thing.